i'm really diggin the vespas. i think i'll save for one next spring.
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Not got a scooter or moped - though I would love one - but I wanted to join the group! Hi John, Woozy and Janie (the ones I know) and hi to the others who I suspect aren't even reading...
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ha ha ha...scrolling through groups and ran across this one... how did i know you'd be the one that created this group?
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Jul 20, 2008
with gas prices, and the realization that it would be wise to find new ways to conserve, i have been searching ebay and researching the whole scooter/moped thing. i have always wanted one, but i lean more towards the vintage side of things as of now. i like this renewed interest and from what i am seeing so far, modern even is starting to appeal to me.
that white one with the red racing stripe is sick. could you help steer me in the right direction DA?
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my ride.......looks like hell...runs like heaven.......derbi atlantis 2003 which means it has the piaggio engine ( as opposed to the spanish one).....
just hit 14,000 miles on it.......had it for 4 years now.....

ps-----laundry mat around the corner! LOL
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Anyone still out there in this group? I rock a Buddy 125 in the Seattle area...just looking for other scooter peeps to converse with
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Welcome Argh..........post away brother!
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A place to discuss Mopeds and Scooters.Ask questions.....tell stories.......
What is a moped really and where does it come from?
To answer this question, one needs to go back to the early days of the bicycle and the invention that revolutionised the 20th century - the internal combustion engine. Put one of these into a coach and you have an automobile; mount it on a bicycle and presto, you have a moped (MOtor PEDals), the precursor of ALL motorcycles. The pedals were omnipresent on all, used both as a starter device and as emergency fallback on human power. As engine sizes got bigger and bigger, it looked as if the half-bicycle-half motorcycle mopeds were just a short-lived early development phase (like a tadpole) that progress simply left behind. History however proved it otherwise.
The moped's evolution can be broken down into 4 distinct periods: from the very beginning to the end of the first world war, the period between the two wars, the phase after WWII to the early '80s and finally today. We also have to define what do we call a moped: a cross between a human-powered bicycle and an engine powered motorcycle, equipped with a (usually) under-50cc gasoline engine (although some early models used 98cc displacements as well).
After the end of WWI, with Europe's map completely redrawn, the short period until the Great Depression of the '30s was not conducive to the developemnt of the moped. While motorcycle manufacturing boomed, largely fuelled by the rapid re-armament needs on all sides, it seemed that the low-cubic, low-speed moped would become extinct forever.
Except nobody factored in WWII. After the war ended in Europe, the demand for simple and economical (read: cheap and affordable), means of transportation skyrocketed. Nobody could afford a car, or even a motorcycle. Most factories were in ruins anyway. In Southern European countries, like Italy and France, people got around on bicycles. This was fertile breeding ground for the rebirth of the moped and also gave us the other Italian cultural icon, the scooter.
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